Prayer monitoring

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:vyacheslav
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Prayer monitoring

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Good day,
I have been studying Orthodox Great Saint Fathers for almost ten years, including prayer principles. I use Muse 2 and Mind Monitor Android
application to observe brain activities during different prayer techniques. I purchased Muse 2 after studying observation materials of the Professor Lesin.
[ if interested, this is some information about him. All links are in Russian language, please use google translate.
http://nmic.bekhterev.ru/clinika/diagnostika/funktsionalnaya-diagnostika/sotrudniki.php?ELEMENT_ID=41

https://ru.wikinews.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BA_%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0_%D0%B2%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%8F%D0%B5%D1%82_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%83_%D0%BC%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B3%D0%B0_%D1%87%D0%B5%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BA%D0%B0%3F

https://religion.wikireading.ru/123463

]

Regarding my graphs:

Can anybody tell the graph on time from 4:48:00 PM to 4:53:00 PM please.
The graph data differs as i changed techniques on purpose.
Conditions: sitting position, relaxed, no noise, room temperature 28 Celsius (hot), interruption at 4:41:00 PM was wiping sweat.

Thank you for your help. :)
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This is another prayer time.
Conditions: at work involving high physical activities: loading grocery boxes.
Duration: 160 minutes.
Consciousness: full awareness.
Mind: high intensity prayers during 160 minutes.

Any observation anomalies in brain waves graph?

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Position: sitting
Conditions: in quiet, no light.
Prayer conditions: no words, completely no thoughts in consciousness.

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Great praphs, vyacheslav. There is the view that praying is equivalent to practicing meditation. It should lead first to inner peace, represented as Alpha waves, followed by psychedelic experiences, intuitive experiences, experience of well-being or happiness, or hearing your inner voice, associated with Gamma wave osciallations in the left prefrontal cortex. Did you see this in your brain waves or hear something?.
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Hello Peter, thank you for reply.

Here are some facts about the prayer:
Man has two thinking elements. The first is one's mind which is a soul which is a spirit. The second is one's consciousness which is a product of
brain neurons.

A prayer is strictly the soul activity.

Prayers and meditation are completely opposite activities as black and white.

For the prayer, the goal is to lower consciousness activities almost to nothing if possible, almost as being in coma, but keeping one's mind praying.

Neither man's soul nor consciousness can hear God.

My preliminary goal is to use my will power to lower own brain activities by my own will. No trickery or any special techniques as in meditations
( i have studied quite a few ).
The Muse headband and Mind Monitor software give me a good glimpse to my brain activities in order to have live feedback.
I do see some interesting patterns in brain wave activities while using my will actively.
Will keep exploring.
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For the first 10 minutes: no prayer, elevated CO2 level by Buteyko method.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buteyko_method

For the rest 20 minutes: no words prayer
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